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Date: 2001-01-15
1978: ECHELON fuer Kinder-.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- versunkenen Zeit, als ein paar Kids mit umfrisierten Kurzwellen/radios Kommunikationen auffingen, die gar nicht an sie gerichtet waren. Darunter waren auch militärische Stationen aus aller Welt, die zum ECHELON-Komplex gerechnet werden. Es ist eine Antwort auf Duncan Campells Klarstellung von gestern: http://www.quintessenz.at/archiv/msg01401.html -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- From: "Erich M" <erich-moechel@quintessenz.at> To: ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk Date sent: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:14:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Commentary on the evdidence for Echelon Priority On 13 Jan 01, at 1:19, Duncan Campbell added to the bitstream: > > I do believe that RHYOLITE once orbited our skies. What I dont believe in > is bizarre theories of global illuminati sourced in nothing at all and > advanced in comprehensive disregard of available evidence. To the whole really lucid posting of Duncan I just would like 2 add three historic metaphors. Pls don't be impatient, if they seem 2 be a bit far fetched in the beginning. For reasons of logic the real bad news are way down at the end: <metaphor 1> As to the amazing interception capabilities of past anaologous HF transmissions of any kind by satellites or whatever: Right in front of me is a bunch of letters and coloured post cards from Saudi Arabia to New Zealand, from the US to the Carribbean confirming my interception of non public transmissions of telecommunications on shortwave: telecoms, cable & wireless, naval, aviation & military "broadcasters" around the world. In short every kind of communications that was later relayed by satellites in the 80ies and 90ies. We reported our intercepting their communications then with all data [frequencies, quality of interception according to the SINFO/SINPO code, weather, equipment] by snail mail, if we were lucky they responded the same way. We treated them as real shortwave *broadcasting* stations like the BBC who were always are very much in favour of getting reports from their listeners. One of the confirmation letters [QSL as it is called] by "CPORS J.A. DELL. chief petty officer radio supervisor HMNZS IRIRANGI WAIORU" dated 7 March 1978 says: "Dear Mr Mochel I can confirm that the VVV VVV VVV ZLP2... heard by you at 1130 GMT on 21 February 1978, was a broadcast call tape radiated by the Naval Communication Station at Waioru New Zealand. The above transmission is radiated during quiet periods to inform ships of the frequencies in use. The transmitter... was a type CTH 7, manufactured by Amalgamated Wireless Australasia Limited, has a power output of 5 KW and uses an omnidirectional quadrant aerial. The transmissions were made on the frequency of 17172.2 Khz" and so on... During the *non quiet* periods we frequently intercepted the real & always unencrypted communications of stations of all types on the same frequencies as the tapes were "broadcast" - that one was in morse code, most of them voice - without having any use for knowing the contents. For a QSL request you had to emphasize that you just intercepted the cq cq cq or vvv broadcast tapes inbetween AND NOT the conversations. When Nicky Hager was here in Austria summer 2000 he told me that Irirangi was the sister station to NZ ECHELON eavesdropping base Waihopai, really amazing ;) I intercepted New Zealand's Irirangi naval base - them using a ridiculous power of 5 KW - on the other side of the globe, namely in Austria, equipped with a then less than 400 USD worth communications receiver Barlow Wadley XCR 30 manufactured in South Africa 1975 or so. The antenna in use was a naked 15 meter wire out of my window to the neighbouring roof. <end of metaphor one> Right before the gulf war, satellite telephone calls around christmas and the new year 1991 from GIs in Saudi arabia crammed all existing satellite channels so they had to reopen the more or less abandoned directed shortwave transmission lines. We got the frequencies most likely in use as early as October 1990 from british & scottish ham radio operators in printed booklets you could mail- order in Edinburgh for a small sum. It was amazing what kind of names, places and even weapons were outspoken freely - where the GIs were located and *anything* else. Two weeks later we listened to US bomber squads taking off from Incirlik airbase in Turkey talking to the tower radio station. Contents? "alfa bravo charlie sixtyniner" and so on. Nothing useful, so to say. [The Brits used "indigo" instead of "india" to characterize the letter "i" but you could tell better from their accent that they were British.] I worked as a media critic then for "Der Standard" and wrote a commentary every day about tv, info-war and Peter Arnett, about CNNs two channel digital [ISDN?] and INMARSAT connections to the world. <end of metaphor two> Very few years ago - i think two - a guy named dr.dish [his real name is Christian Maas] took a HF receiver/scanner ARO 5000, added two other pieces of equipment including a fax converter plus a low level PC and made some news around here in Europe. The whole crap worth less than 3000 Dollars brought fone calls & faxes in clear text en masse from the INMARSAT channels all over the globe. Contents of the calls & faxes? Mysterious, unclear - tons of human research hours would have been needed to get anything real out of it. <end of metaphor three, beginning of the real bad news> Parameters have significantly changed since the analogous era. A spy agency's strategy operating mainly from the skies to intercept as a routine e.g. GSM-Networks must be considered brain-dead nowadays. Way too much computing power needed to do it from outside. They use that method in countries where they aren't in, anywhere else they use roaming gateways and other interfaces *inside* the networks. This is the only way to get useful intelligence out of the traffic. It is the same false public conception Duncan regrets as to ECHELON being the giant spy system that sucks up all information, especially private fone calls worldwide. No way to process that, no way to get serious intelligence out of that with reasonable costs. What is bad? As soon as they have finalized docking onto the switched circuit [GSM,ISDN] & then packet switched digital [GPRS,UMTS] networks of the [soon to become : former] civil societies time & technologies work 4 them. Nowadays they are primarily interested in traffic data [who communicated with whom when how often & where] because they can process those data close to real time. They use data mining methods, schemata, patterns generated by algorithms as a means of social control to detect "deviant behaviour". That is the point imho. The upcoming age of interception has little to do with the adventurous past of amateurism & interception from the analogous-all-you-can-eat-communications-department. The upcoming danger is from the process-these-slim- information-bits- and-create-an-individual-pattern-to-control- society-department. They can do that and there4 they do it. tnx 4 ur patience & a pleasant night Erich -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- edited by published on: 2001-01-15 comments to office@quintessenz.at subscribe Newsletter - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- 
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