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Date: 2000-05-24
Zensur: Surfnazis bei Yahoo Frankreich-.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- Frankreich den Zugang zu Auktionen von Nazi-Devotionalien über seine Sites blockierne müsse [Hintergrund siehe Link below] Auszüge aus einem Posting von Meryem Marzouki [Iris France] auf der internen Liste der Global Internet Liberty Campaign. post/scrypt: Die Fragen dazu stellte Peter Kuhm von VIBE.AT, die nach einem Proposal der quintessenz in den globalen Dachverband der Civil Libertarians beigetreten ist. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- The judgement says that since yahoo.com pages can be accessed by users in France, these pages must respect the French law (this is the most crazy thing I've ever heard. What is normally considered is that a site edited by a French person/company/org in any place of the world or by a person/company/org established in France must respect the French law, and that's all). It seems that the judgement also says that the French subsidiary Yahoo.fr should also put a warning on its site, saying something like "accessing the yahoo.com auction pages may lead to a violation of the French law". I cannot really comment since the text of the judgement is not yet available, but nothing in the French law says that it is forbidden to consult or read or see (or maybe even possess, but I have to check that) nazi material. What is against the French law is to publicly exhibit, sell, or wear such material (except for the purpose of making a movie, or things like that). This means that if a French person access to nazi material on a web page, the violation of the French law will be made by the editor of this site, and not by the person who is accessing it ! Our position, in our reaction published yesterday, was to recommend that LICRA and UEJF and others, instead of suing companies like Yahoo, should organize the boycott of such companies, since in fact they aren't proposing nazi material for ideological purposes, but simply because there are customers for that, and that this boycott may have a pedagogical result in the fight against neo-nazism, together with an economical impact on yahoo. Another recommendation we've made is that the French Parliament should examine the possibility to forbid that companies which are violating the French law be established in France, or have French subsidiary. In fact, their establishment is actually forbidden in this case, since, by definition, a company established in France should respect the French law. As a matter of fact, the newly adopted Directive on e- commerce has a very precise definition of the 'country of establishement' for a given company. > >What is new and crazy is what the jugde has decided. > > ACK This case can however be (by some aspects only) compared to the Felix Somm/Compuserve case in Germany (condemned in 1998, and released afterwards). -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- Background http://futurezone.orf.at/futurezone.orf?read=detail&id=29407 The Global Internet Liberty Campaign http://www.gilc.org Iris France http://www.iris.sgdg.org VIBE http://www.vibe.at -.- -.-. quintessenz wird dem/next auf einen eigenen Server übersiedeln. Diese Tagline hilft uns dabei http://www.fastbox.at -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- edited by Harkank published on: 2000-05-24 comments to office@quintessenz.at subscribe Newsletter - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- 
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